Interview with Eric Eswin - FISM International Past President

Interview by Aldo Ghiurmino

We have the privilege of hearing from Eric Eswin, Past President of FISM. Let's dive into his insights and experiences

 

FISM: What was the first time you got in touch with FISM, and what memory do you have of that moment?

Eric Eswin: It was in 1969 when FISM President Henk Vermeyden asked me to assist in organizing the FISM convention in 1970 in Amsterdam. He appointed me as the head of the organizational team.

 

FISM: Prior to your involvement on the FISM board, was there something within FISM that you wished to change or improve?

EE: In1969, as an army officer with training in organizational matters, I was surprised to note that in fact FISM was poorly organized. It felt more like a club of magician friends growing out of its control, rather than a respectful international organization. Even then I realized that FISM needed a major reorganization, but soon I was consumed by my regular work outside magic. A change could only be initiated in 2003, after writing a strategic vision for FISM.

 

FISM: As a FISM Past President, which project you are most proud of contributing to?

EE: I'm proud of several of my contributions, including: 

- Formulating a strategy for FISM's future.

- Reorganizing FISM through the introduction of continental divisions.

- Establishing an explicit decision-making process.

- Implementing changes to the FISM Statutes and Competition Rules, in accordance with the strategy.

- Making member-associations aware of their responsibilities for the well-being of the FISM.

 

FISM: In an era where magic is increasingly present online, on TV, in public spaces, and in theaters worldwide, how do you think FISM can adapt to this new reality without compromising its tradition? What are the challenges and opportunities in this adaptation process?

EE: To adapt to this rapidly changing world, first of all a new strategic plan should be devised. This involves discussions with not only members of FISM societies, but also with trendwatchers, professional convention organizers, art directors and the likes, on how societal, climatological, technological, economic, and behavioral changes will impact the art of magic. Each of these changes should be thoroughly analyzed for its potential consequences. The collective conclusions should then form the basis of a new strategy for the future.

 

FISM: In your opinion, what is the main obstacle that FISM must overcome to continue growing and thriving in the future? How do you think the organization can successfully address these challenges?

EE: FISM's primary goal should not be mere growth. Instead, it should focus on establishing magic as a recognized art form, on par with other performing arts. 
Growth for FISM should be a result, not the main aim. 

From an organizational point of view this also means that FISM should seek partners not only within the magic community but also, perhaps primarily, outside the magic community.

 

FISM: Looking ahead, how do you envision FISM's role in promoting the art of magic globally in the coming years?

EE: FISM should prioritize engaging with the younger generation, particularly those who effectively utilize social media platforms likeYouTube, TikTok, etc. and are involved in artificial intelligence research to enhance their magic. These young magicians represent the future and they understand new changes better than the older generation. Encouraging them to assume leadership roles in magic clubs and organizations will help foster a different, more contemporary approach to socializing and communication.

 

FISM: Do you want to add any feelings or anecdotes about your experience as FISM President?

EE: Since 1969 I have attended all 18 successive FISM conventions and have been involved in many of them, in various positions and responsibilities, so I have numerous anecdotes to share, some of which I've written about in my foreword in Aldo Ghiurmino's extensive book on FISM’s past and history.

 

 

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